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Hawaii Again Declares Obama Birth Certificate Real

Discussion in 'Political Forum' started by Shorty, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. lynn Member

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/...-their-tracks/

    Hawaii Official and Ex-Official Lie to Cover Their Tracks

    DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN RAMPS UP IN RESPONSE TO DONALD TRUMP’S ASSERTIONS THAT OBAMA HAS NOT SHOWN A REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    by Miki Booth


    Dr. Chiyome Fukino lied on national TV when she said that the "Certification of Live Birth" is all a person can obtain from the Health Department. And what gave her the right to "inspect" Obama's records if they are closed by state law?

    (Apr. 10, 2011) — Donald Trump is really turning the heat up on Obama’s missing birth certificate and far-left zealots have found it necessary to drag ex-Hawai’i official, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, former director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, back to the podium to recite her tale of viewing the elusive document. This time, unlike her first obtuse and lawyered-up comments, Fukino has gotten bolder since Abercrombie slipped his Obama “born in Hawaii” sentence into the 50th anniversary commemorative bill.

    But the latest attempt to put out the flames has backfired and exposed some naughty children huddled in a back room playing with matches. Michael Isikoff, MSNBC’s “so-called” national investigative correspondent, was caught with Joshua Wisch, former chairman of Howard Dean’s presidential campaign in Hawaii. Now spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general’s office, Wisch apparently colluded with Fukino to validate Obama’s alleged “Certification of Live Birth.”

    “What he got, everybody got,” said Fukino. “He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate.”

    Not true, Dr. Fukino. When my son, Alan, requested a copy of his birth certificate he got just that—a “Certificate of Live Birth,” not the same as Obama’s. Different titles and different information. Obama’s is sorely lacking information required for obtaining a passport—Mother’s State/Country of Birth and Father’s State/Country of Birth.

    Short-Form Certificate of Live Birth obtained by Alan Booth, who was born in Hawaii. The document contains a raised seal, which Obama's Certification of Live Birth did not.

    It appears specific people are lining up to take a bullet for Obama. Conspiracy to defraud the American people is a serious crime and MSNBC has become the epitome of yellow journalism, brashly covering-up for Obama and the entire anti-American agenda of the socialist left. This latest cover-up attempt is laughable and speaks volumes to the desperation of the Democrat Party.

    Michael Isikoff writes, “But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general’s office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” — even to the individual whose birth it records.

    “It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody,” he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorized such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.



    But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer-generated “certification of live birth” form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.”

    Not true, Mr. Wisch. A friend of mine filled out the appropriate state form and received back a “certificate of live birth” as shown below:

    Long-Form Certificate of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii received in March 2011 by the requester
    Enough with the lies already. You will be held accountable.

    As long as the debate over Obama’s birth records drag on, we will have that much more time to inform Americans that the birth certificate doesn’t even matter. We don’t care whether he has one or not; Obama is clearly illegally occupying the office of US President since he is not by any stretch of the imagination an Article II, Section I, clause 5 “natural born Citizen” born of two citizen parents on American soil. It becomes more evident every day that his allegiance is not to the United States of America.

    Truth will out.

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    Editor’s Note: The Post & Email will be calling Mr. Wisch tomorrow to confront him with his false statements about obtaining vital records in Hawaii. We will also be contacting for the third time the Health Department, Governor Neil Abercrombie, and Lt. Gov. Brian Schatz, all of whom have spokespersons who have failed to return our calls or answer our letters regarding the many contradictions evident in Obama’s birth story and documentation, or lack thereof. The Health Department registrar, Dr. Alvin Onaka, whose stamp appears on the long-form document above, is apparently squeamish about picking up the telephone and answering our questions.

    How many people will be going to jail over this massive cover-up? And what else, other than Obama’s “records,” are they hiding? Perhaps 50 years of defrauding the federal government?
  2. Shorty Active Member

  3. lynn Member

    So what you are trying saying is.
    The overwhelming weight of evidence is that he was born in Hawaii. There's nothing more to say. When there are contemporaneous newspaper articles about it along with the certifications of the state official in charge of such matters, you're done. You've got overwhelming proof at that point. Trying to find extremely minor discrepancies is an exercise in absolute silliness.
    Silly Birthers
  4. Shorty Active Member

    Born in the U.S.A. - The Editors - National Review Online

  5. lynn Member

    I am a "Proofer" not a "Birther". My guess is that he was probably born in Hawaii. But the actual place he was born is more 'secondary' than 'primary'. His whole nativity story is a lie regardless of where he was born. His parents were never married and never lived at the address posted with the newspaper announcements in the Hawaii newspapers. Those newspaper announcements prove nothing especially when they were posted 8 days afterwards.

    What is on his long BC form along with all his academic records from kindergarten on through Harvard that he pays millions of $$ to conceal ? Rove and the Lefty Marxists are actually on the same page of covering for Obama on this because Rove thinks it's a political trap and the Lefty Marxists (high up) know Obama is thoroughly manufactured and not eligible to serve not to mention having lied to the American public about his supposed nativity story.

    Sr. is not his daddy?-BC
    Potential dual citizenship?-BC
    Foreign national?-academic records
    Claimed Muslim?-academic records

    Who knows?
  6. muddy river Active Member

    Poll: What kind of president would Donald Trump make? - USATODAY.com

    Looks like 62% of the US population is either crazy or racist. Some are probably both.
  7. Shorty Active Member

    Laffin - show me where that that number Millions spent comes from. I can tell you that BO has spent roughly 2 million in the legal defense of his 2008 run, John McCain has spent 1.5 million on the same thing. Most of that money spent was on other issues than the BC. Once again you birthers are either misinformed or outright lying and misrepresenting basic facts.

    FYI - the short BC that was BO presented in 2008 serves as prima facie evidence in any court proceeding.
  8. Shorty Active Member

  9. Shorty Active Member

    Obama to speak on birth certificate - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

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  11. lynn Member

  12. Shorty Active Member

    Hey Lynn, at least you didn't declare it a fake.

    Charlie Sheen is into "WINNING" too. :biglaugh:
  13. getmeoutdoors Member

    Good. It only took 2 1/2 years to produce this thing, but there are many more unanswered questions as listed in earlier posts in this thread. I've always said he was probably born here, but there are other serious issues about this man that are being covered up. It will be interesting to see if Donald (since the media won't do it) presses for more answers. Sure, as Shorty posted earlier, Obama doesn't have to release other records, but it would be nice to see someone press him on those issues.
  14. Shorty Active Member

    Should Palin decides to run I would love to see her college transcripts as well.

    Trumps records as well.

    It sure would be nice to know if BO ever took an economics class in college and what kind of grade he got, that also applys to those who plan to run against him in 2012 as well.
  15. muddy river Active Member

    Trump's press conference was awesome. Dude comes out smelling like a rose.
  16. muddy river Active Member

    Just wondering if anyone has noticed that choclab and tmjohnson 21 are gone again at the same exact time. Coincidence? LOL!
  17. Tmjohnson21 Member


    Enlighten us please! What more must this man prove to you?
  18. Tmjohnson21 Member

    Nah I have just gotten tired of Lynn's spam messaging. HE posts worthless articles from outlandish sources.
  19. lynn Member

    You forgot. & Hijacks my worthless threads :)
  20. lynn Member

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