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Old 08-22-2008, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: Anybody Got A Better Idea?

If this started in the past couple weeks and nothing has changed with your set up.....I'd respool again!
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Old 08-24-2008, 07:32 PM
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The line twisting ia actually a new smiting isolated to just this past few weeks. Prior to this, it's not been an issue. Despite the regular spray silicone dousings, and the essential two precautionary shots into the water before each bowfishing outing to make certain the line flows freely, line twisting persisted for inexplicable reasons. In my haste, perhaps, I mistakedly investigated the pound of cure rather than the more proper ounce of prevention, circumventing the "root cause", as Maze so ably points out. For resolution, appealing to and drawing upon the vast well of experience of my fellow bowfishers here was a major part of the overall strategy. We all base our equipment preferences on what has been determined to be successful, either from our own experiences or those of others. Contrasting, and even conflicting, experience-based opinions are inescapeable. Some only use Retrievers and others only spinners. Of this latter group, supporters of Muzzy reels and those made my Zebco have a relatively equal number of fans. The same could be said of FastFlite or PowerPro line. It is no accident that there are so many fish points on the market. Each has its own merits and its own band of adherants. Let's not get started on this, but I'll only use Shure Shot Penetrators. All this stuff has been proven to work, some always reliably with nary a bauble, and some only after a fashion. None, however, are bullet-proof in everyone's observations.
"Seriously"( is there another way to be?) one who unbiddenly bursts onto a public forum, posing authoritatively while pompously declaring that since he'd "never do and never seen it" ( swivels applied to bowfishing line) broadcasts rather his own inexperience and reluctance to learn.

"I HAVE NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON"

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Sorry I dont understand at all.

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Old 08-24-2008, 09:41 PM
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Ditto!
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:19 PM
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He He He...
Why wouldn't this work? then when you swap arrows just cut off above the swivel and leave the rest attached to the slide? (sorry for the crappy pic, I have a lack of artistic talent on Paint.)
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:22 PM
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try slides instead of rings.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:48 AM
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Sorny,

Your artful illustration shows what seems to be a variation of my own brainstorm. Thanks for your thoughtful effort and thanks to anyone else that tried to be helpful.
Depite my intervention, the trouble thankfully seems to have resolved itself, seemingly by itself, possibly due to my instinctive lifting the line as high as I could reach after each shot, letting it revolve, and untwisting the line.
The trouble might actually be exclusive to the use of rings. On the back of the AMS ring package, I just renoticed the manufacturer's advice: "If the line becomes twisted near the ring, suspend arrow three feet from the end and let arrow untwist line." Somewhere, I don't remember where, I recall an alternative remedy - to drag the arrow behind a moving boat - accomplishing the same effect. This is hard for me to do since I mostly bowfish from a creekbank or from an oar propelled jon boat at a lake.
As a consequence, I've lost some of the confidence I had in the Zebco, and until the creek ices up, I may switch to the Muzzy.
For three decades I used a virtually foolproof wind-up reel (no line twist!)which served me well. Machines with more than one moving part are cross-grain to my ultra-simplistic nature, but I'm now sold on spinners and I'm certain that the old drum reel is permanently retired.
This could be the signal to switch to slides. The ring system has its flaws. I've had a couple welds break and lost a couple of arrows as a result.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:28 AM
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SPRO Power Swivels
Theres the swivel you need. 230lb test. 130 would probably be PLENTY but ill take the extra insurance, just need an indestructible knot. I actually am thinking about trying this setup, ill tie one to all my arrows with a slide and when I need to retie ill just retie to the swivel.

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Old 08-26-2008, 08:04 PM
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DeerSlayer,
I credited someone else with your illustration. Sorry. Look like that's the tough swivel we'd need, together with trustworthy knots.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:36 PM
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It's okay, id rather not take credit for that horrible picture. I'm done bowfishin this year, unless someone can put me on them, because I can't find anything from the shore. Time to get ready for ducks.
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